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Ireland Tour of South Africa July 2024

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South Africa v Ireland
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Saturday, 6 July, 2024
Referee: Angus Gardner (RA)
Assistant Referee 1: Karl Dickson (RFU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mike Adamson (SRU)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)

South Africa v Ireland
Hollywoodbets Kings Park, Durban
Saturday, 13 July, 2024
Referee: Karl Dickson (RFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Angus Gardner (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Craig Evans (WRU)
TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)
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It's better to have the high altitude game first-up when legs are a bit fresher. They have a game against Wales/Baa-Baas beforehand, but they might have a degree of rustiness as a unit. We can catch them cold in the first game, and then the second match at sea level removes some of their advantage.
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Henderson out of the tour. Had surgery on a toe injury.
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cormac wrote: May 14th, 2024, 3:15 pm Henderson out of the tour. Had surgery on a toe injury.
I wonder how this will affect selection if at all.

With Beirne, Ryan (assuming no setbacks) and McCarthy you may as well embroider their names on the plane seats.

Baird is obviously a live option in the row even if 6 looks to be his future.

I do wonder will Farrell look to bring out some developmental players. If this is the case I'd like to see Tom Ahern there as I think he has excellent pedigree and will benefit from it. But I do NOT think he is a live option against South Africa at home :lol:

Cormac Izuchukwu is someone who has seriously impressed in recent months too. Looks to be flourishing under Richie Murphy. Goes to show what having a skills focused coach can do to athletic, skillful players...
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Jack Conan ruled out of Ireland’s tour to South Africa due to personal reasons

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 33658.html
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SaoPaulo41 wrote: June 17th, 2024, 9:26 pm Jack Conan ruled out of Ireland’s tour to South Africa due to personal reasons

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 33658.html
People mad at Keenan for not playing for Leinster because he wants an Olympic medal. I wonder if we lose in South Africa those same people will get mad at this and be like “It’s a disgrace the IRFU let this happen and Conan is also contributing to our loss”.
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Lock9541 wrote: June 17th, 2024, 10:16 pm
SaoPaulo41 wrote: June 17th, 2024, 9:26 pm Jack Conan ruled out of Ireland’s tour to South Africa due to personal reasons

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 33658.html
People mad at Keenan for not playing for Leinster because he wants an Olympic medal. I wonder if we lose in South Africa those same people will get mad at this and be like “It’s a disgrace the IRFU let this happen and Conan is also contributing to our loss”.
I doubt it, seems unlikely. Not the same thing. I'll worry about that one when it happens.
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arsebiscuits1 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 11:20 am
cormac wrote: May 14th, 2024, 3:15 pm Henderson out of the tour. Had surgery on a toe injury.
I wonder how this will affect selection if at all.

With Beirne, Ryan (assuming no setbacks) and McCarthy you may as well embroider their names on the plane seats.

Baird is obviously a live option in the row even if 6 looks to be his future.

I do wonder will Farrell look to bring out some developmental players. If this is the case I'd like to see Tom Ahern there as I think he has excellent pedigree and will benefit from it. But I do NOT think he is a live option against South Africa at home :lol:

Cormac Izuchukwu is someone who has seriously impressed in recent months too. Looks to be flourishing under Richie Murphy. Goes to show what having a skills focused coach can do to athletic, skillful players...
Interesting. Could go a few directions.

Treadwell the most recent but it's been a while and form has been questionable. Might be injured.

Ahern and Izuchukwu have form and Ahern was a training member of the panel. But it's the switch to 6 that has been good for them.

Baird could too but that then raises the question of the backrow. POM has been getting subbed early. If POM is fading fast then there's a premium on 6 already. And with Conan now out that's removed a Doris-Conan partnership.

A 2 game tour is short so I imagine Baird is the lock cover and one or more of Cian Prendergast, Ahern, Izuchukwu, Deegan as backfill in the backrow.

Deeper in the depth chart isn't great right now for specialist locks. Joe Joyce is really out on his own. Capping him making Nucifora's recruitment look better and reflects well on Connacht. Or say f it and pick someone like Joshua Brennan or Dillane (who appears to be injured).

Molony wouldn't be breaking any rules and I'd be so happy for him but I won't get my hopes up.
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Some weird attempts to stoke up a bitter rivalry going on.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... st-rivalry

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ronk wrote:
arsebiscuits1 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 11:20 am
cormac wrote: May 14th, 2024, 3:15 pm Henderson out of the tour. Had surgery on a toe injury.
I wonder how this will affect selection if at all.

With Beirne, Ryan (assuming no setbacks) and McCarthy you may as well embroider their names on the plane seats.

Baird is obviously a live option in the row even if 6 looks to be his future.

I do wonder will Farrell look to bring out some developmental players. If this is the case I'd like to see Tom Ahern there as I think he has excellent pedigree and will benefit from it. But I do NOT think he is a live option against South Africa at home Image

Cormac Izuchukwu is someone who has seriously impressed in recent months too. Looks to be flourishing under Richie Murphy. Goes to show what having a skills focused coach can do to athletic, skillful players...
Interesting. Could go a few directions.

Treadwell the most recent but it's been a while and form has been questionable. Might be injured.

Ahern and Izuchukwu have form and Ahern was a training member of the panel. But it's the switch to 6 that has been good for them.

Baird could too but that then raises the question of the backrow. POM has been getting subbed early. If POM is fading fast then there's a premium on 6 already. And with Conan now out that's removed a Doris-Conan partnership.

A 2 game tour is short so I imagine Baird is the lock cover and one or more of Cian Prendergast, Ahern, Izuchukwu, Deegan as backfill in the backrow.

Deeper in the depth chart isn't great right now for specialist locks. Joe Joyce is really out on his own. Capping him making Nucifora's recruitment look better and reflects well on Connacht. Or say f it and pick someone like Joshua Brennan or Dillane (who appears to be injured).

Molony wouldn't be breaking any rules and I'd be so happy for him but I won't get my hopes up.
Think Bath are signing Molony on the basis that he's England qualified

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May be a factor. Wouldn't know if it's in a contract or to what extent Molony would take a hit for a cap.

Likely moot anyway.

I think they're signing him because he's a bloody good player with loads of elite experience, a brilliant injury record and probably sensible wages.
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Lock9541 wrote: June 17th, 2024, 10:16 pm
SaoPaulo41 wrote: June 17th, 2024, 9:26 pm Jack Conan ruled out of Ireland’s tour to South Africa due to personal reasons

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 33658.html
People mad at Keenan for not playing for Leinster because he wants an Olympic medal. I wonder if we lose in South Africa those same people will get mad at this and be like “It’s a disgrace the IRFU let this happen and Conan is also contributing to our loss”.
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Wow, Harry Byrne is really on the outs at the moment - not selected for the summer tour :shock:


(Ross not selected either but Prendergast is)
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Xanthippe wrote: June 18th, 2024, 4:30 pm Wow, Harry Byrne is really on the outs at the moment - not selected for the summer tour :shock:
Was the squad announced Xan?
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Irish Rugby wrote: Farrell Names 35-Player Ireland Men’s Squad For South Africa Tour
18th June 2024 16:28

Head Coach Andy Farrell has today named a 35-player Ireland Men’s squad for the upcoming Summer Tour to South Africa, captained by Peter O’Mahony.

The squad will assemble at the IRFU High Performance Centre in Dublin on Thursday to begin preparations for the two-match Test Series against the Springboks, before departing for Johannesburg from Tuesday, 25 June.

Farrell has included three uncapped players in the squad, as Leinster duo Jamie Osborne and Sam Prendergast are rewarded for their performances at Provincial level, while Ulster’s Cormac Izuchukwu earns his first senior call up.

Farrell’s side will go head-to-head with the Springboks in the opening Test at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria on Saturday, 6 July (Kick-off 5pm local time/4pm Irish time), with Hollywoodbets Kings Park in Durban hosting the second Test a week later on Saturday, 13 July (Kick-off 5pm local time/4pm Irish time).

Looking ahead to the Summer Tour, Farrell said: “Travelling to South Africa to play a Test Series against the defending world champions provides no greater test for us, and it is another valuable opportunity for us to further grow and develop from the Guinness Six Nations.

“The squad will come together in Dublin this week in preparation for the Tour and the group understands the need to hit the ground running, ensuring we are the best version of ourselves for the challenge ahead.”

Ireland captain Peter O’Mahony added: “I am proud to be asked to lead Ireland in South Africa, a country which provides one of the toughest challenges in world rugby.

“As reigning world champions, South Africa will provide the sternest of tests and we know that we will have to perform at a high level to get the results we want. There’s a lot of respect and familiarity between both countries in recent years at international and Club levels, since they were invited to join the URC and European Cup competitions, and we know the challenge that awaits.”

The two Tests are live on Sky Sports in the Republic of Ireland and United Kingdom.

Ireland Squad – Summer Tour 2024:
Player/Club/Province/Caps

Forwards:
Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster) 20
Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht) 40
Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster) 50
Caelan Doris (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 41
Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 76
Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 129
Rob Herring (Ulster/Ballynahinch) 39
Cormac Izuchukwu (Ulster/Ballynahinch)*
Oli Jager (Munster) 1
Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) 31
Joe McCarthy (Dublin University/Leinster) 10
Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)(captain) 105
Tom O’Toole (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 13
Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 64
Cian Prendergast (UCD/Connacht) 3
James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 62
Dan Sheehan (Lansdowne/Leinster) 26
Nick Timoney (Banbridge/Ulster) 3
Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 62

Backs:
Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 56
Caolin Blade (Galwegians/Connacht) 2
Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster) 14
Jack Crowley (Cork Constitution/Munster) 14
Ciaran Frawley (UCD/Leinster) 4
Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 72
Jordan Larmour (St Mary’s College/Leinster) 32
James Lowe (Leinster) 31
Stuart McCloskey (Bangor/Ulster) 17
Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 116
Calvin Nash (Young Munster/Munster) 6
Jimmy O’Brien (Naas/Leinster) 8
Jamie Osborne (Naas/Leinster)*
Sam Prendergast (Lansdowne/Leinster)*
Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 58
Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 37

* denotes uncapped player

Unavailable: Jamison Gibson-Park (hamstring injury) and Jack Conan (personal reasons).

Summer Tour 2024 Fixtures:
Saturday, 6 July: South Africa v Ireland, Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria (5pm local time/4pm Irish time)
Saturday, 13 July: South Africa v Ireland, Hollywoodbets Kings Park, Durban (5pm local time/4pm Irish time).

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Oldschoolsocks wrote: June 18th, 2024, 4:32 pm
Xanthippe wrote: June 18th, 2024, 4:30 pm Wow, Harry Byrne is really on the outs at the moment - not selected for the summer tour :shock:
Was the squad announced Xan?
It's strange - it's available through a link on twitter but not directly available on IRFU site yet

Never mind - it's up on IRFU now
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Prendergast and Frawley backing up Crowley at 10.
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Two Prendergasts and no Byrnes. Looks like O'Toole may be covering loosehead.
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Xanthippe wrote: June 18th, 2024, 4:30 pm Wow, Harry Byrne is really on the outs at the moment - not selected for the summer tour :shock:


(Ross not selected either but Prendergast is)
Not a surprise tbf
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