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naraic wrote: April 7th, 2024, 9:36 pm
hugonaut wrote: April 7th, 2024, 9:15 pm Great win for the stone-eating men of the west. Particularly big night for Prendergast Snr., who showed great pace to ally with his excellent fitness to bag the second of his tries.

They were his sixth and seventh tries of the season, an excellent return for a forward. He has had a particularly busy season for Connacht, starting every match of their season bar their URC Round 6 fixture. He has gone the full 80 mins in every game, except one where he spent 10 mins in the sin bin.
The only every game man in the Connacht set up. Most other players are subject to fairly heavy rotation.

He has something like 450 minutes more rugby this season than the next most heavily involved players.
Byron Ralston has played every minute he's been available for, but first suspension and then injury mean that he's played 320 mins less than Prendergast. There was a huge amount of rotation in the early season, but a reasonably clear depth chart has emerged and now the same players are generally playing week in, week out.
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great to see Hugh Gavin and Matthew Devine move into connacht senior squad.
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mildlyinterested wrote: April 11th, 2024, 2:08 pm great to see Hugh Gavin and Matthew Devine move into connacht senior squad.
Quote from Wilkins:

“This year we introduced a new approach with the Academy department on how we grow our up-and-coming talent. By increasing the integration between both setups, all of our Academy players have trained alongside our Pro squad and kept to a similar weekly schedule. The benefits have been enormous, not only for the Academy players in exposing them to a Professional environment, but also for both sets of coaches and management to work so closely together. Today’s news of Matthew and Hugh moving to Pro contracts next season was helped massively by how we’ve approached the last year, and it will always be a major aim of Connacht’s to continue developing our homegrown players.”

Makes sense given the lack of minutes available and absence of A games, but isn't this what Leinster have always done? Along with affording a lot more first team opportunities.
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scentofgunpowder wrote: April 11th, 2024, 2:25 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: April 11th, 2024, 2:08 pm great to see Hugh Gavin and Matthew Devine move into connacht senior squad.
Quote from Wilkins:

“This year we introduced a new approach with the Academy department on how we grow our up-and-coming talent. By increasing the integration between both setups, all of our Academy players have trained alongside our Pro squad and kept to a similar weekly schedule. The benefits have been enormous, not only for the Academy players in exposing them to a Professional environment, but also for both sets of coaches and management to work so closely together. Today’s news of Matthew and Hugh moving to Pro contracts next season was helped massively by how we’ve approached the last year, and it will always be a major aim of Connacht’s to continue developing our homegrown players.”

Makes sense given the lack of minutes available and absence of A games, but isn't this what Leinster have always done? Along with affording a lot more first team opportunities.
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scentofgunpowder wrote: April 11th, 2024, 2:25 pm
mildlyinterested wrote: April 11th, 2024, 2:08 pm great to see Hugh Gavin and Matthew Devine move into connacht senior squad.
Quote from Wilkins:

“This year we introduced a new approach with the Academy department on how we grow our up-and-coming talent. By increasing the integration between both setups, all of our Academy players have trained alongside our Pro squad and kept to a similar weekly schedule. The benefits have been enormous, not only for the Academy players in exposing them to a Professional environment, but also for both sets of coaches and management to work so closely together. Today’s news of Matthew and Hugh moving to Pro contracts next season was helped massively by how we’ve approached the last year, and it will always be a major aim of Connacht’s to continue developing our homegrown players.”

Makes sense given the lack of minutes available and absence of A games, but isn't this what Leinster have always done? Along with affording a lot more first team opportunities.
About time. Connachts academy players seem to have do an awfully long time in their apprenticeship before ever making the leap to the senior side. Hopefully this helps close that gap a little, I know there are other factors
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Pretty sure Lam had the academy boys training with them for a good while. Maybe that stopped under Keane and Friendly. If so then it wasn't a smart move. Hopefully we see more Academy players coming through. Quite frankly I think Gavin and Devine would have made it anyway without pro training. This is I think a problem with some of the academies, part of the job is to bring up players who maybe on the threshold but it seems with a lot of the provinces a lot of the players coming through are natural athletes that would have made it without been hot housed.
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sunshiner1 wrote: April 12th, 2024, 12:44 pm Pretty sure Lam had the academy boys training with them for a good while. Maybe that stopped under Keane and Friendly. If so then it wasn't a smart move. Hopefully we see more Academy players coming through. Quite frankly I think Gavin and Devine would have made it anyway without pro training. This is I think a problem with some of the academies, part of the job is to bring up players who maybe on the threshold but it seems with a lot of the provinces a lot of the players coming through are natural athletes that would have made it without been hot housed.
Yeah, promoting Hugh Gavin isn't evidence of the system working, he's an outlier who was probably physically ready for pro rugby at 18.
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Connacht repeatedly and successfully shooting themselves in the feet during the first half in Treviso. Conceded two of the sloppiest tries you’ll see for some time. A try just before half-time is just about keeping them in it.

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cormac wrote: April 14th, 2024, 1:24 pm Connacht repeatedly and successfully shooting themselves in the feet during the first half in Treviso. Conceded two of the sloppiest tries you’ll see for some time. A try just before half-time is just about keeping them in it.

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Their ball retention is atrocious. On numerous occasions their backline moves have crumbled due to poor passing, receiving and/or timing. Partly due to Treviso press though, it must be said.
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Why on earth Connacht keep letting ball bounce is beyond me.
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FT: TRE 39-24 CON
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I hope Treviso win it now. That was a very strong team they had out today
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enby wrote: April 14th, 2024, 3:24 pm I hope Treviso win it now. That was a very strong team they had out today
They have a good 1st choice 15. The team today was stronger than Connachts IMO. Although Connacht didn't help themselves at all.
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by dougie the flanker

Why on earth Connacht keep letting ball bounce is beyond me.
Very much this. It's rugby 101. Shockingly bad from Connacht.
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Sounds like Munster have taken another Connacht player in Tom Farrell. Big loss for Connacht. Munster seem to be targeting Connacht for backs instead of developing them.
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Galicia celt wrote: April 16th, 2024, 12:51 pm Sounds like Munster have taken another Connacht player in Tom Farrell. Big loss for Connacht. Munster seem to be targeting Connacht for backs instead of developing them.
Piers O'Conor the IQ'd back at Bristol rumoured to be replacing him.
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neill_m wrote: April 16th, 2024, 1:04 pm
Galicia celt wrote: April 16th, 2024, 12:51 pm Sounds like Munster have taken another Connacht player in Tom Farrell. Big loss for Connacht. Munster seem to be targeting Connacht for backs instead of developing them.
Piers O'Conor the IQ'd back at Bristol rumoured to be replacing him.
Connacht could probably afford to lose a centre right about now.
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Galicia celt wrote: April 16th, 2024, 12:51 pm Sounds like Munster have taken another Connacht player in Tom Farrell. Big loss for Connacht. Munster seem to be targeting Connacht for backs instead of developing them.
According to some Munster pod Twitter account, Tom Farrell was rumoured to be retiring as he hadn't been offered a contract at Connacht, until Munster offered him a deal
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Galicia celt wrote: April 16th, 2024, 12:51 pm Sounds like Munster have taken another Connacht player in Tom Farrell. Big loss for Connacht. Munster seem to be targeting Connacht for backs instead of developing them.
Not a bad move for either party. Opens up some gametime for Hugh Gavin in Connacht and should give Tom Farrell a new lease of life. He has played some excellent rugby in the past for Connacht but is looking a little bit stale.
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Hawkshaw has 8 starts at 13 this season.
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