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Toulouse win Top14 quarter-final with all eight forwards replaced in second half.

Racing 92 beaten in Top14 quarter-final as they only replace seven forwards in second half.

The game has changed but the French League has made a mockery out of the fifteen-a-side game.
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Do you mean forwards who were taken off being bought back on after a while on the bench?
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Ruckedtobits wrote: June 12th, 2022, 10:58 pm Toulouse win Top14 quarter-final with all eight forwards replaced in second half.

Racing 92 beaten in Top14 quarter-final as they only replace seven forwards in second half.

The game has changed but the French League has made a mockery out of the fifteen-a-side game.
Could not agree more. The eight man bench has been in play for more than a decade and it is taken for granted, but it has changed rugby for the worse.

These are Toulouse's forward changes [alone]:

21' Cros [No6] off, Flament [No19] on
51' Mauvaka [No2] off, Marchand [No16] on
53' Baille [No1] off, Ainu'u [No17] on
58' Ri. Arnold [No5] off, Meafou [No18] on
61' Elstadt [No7] off, Tolofua [No20] on
61' Aldegheri [No3] off, Vallez [No23] on
66' Ro. Arnold [No4] off, Elstadt [No7] on
77' Mallez [No23] off, Aldeghiri [No3] on
79' Jelonch [No8] off, Mauvaka [No2] on

Literally subbed off every member of their pack in an 80 minute game.
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hugonaut wrote: June 13th, 2022, 10:43 am
Ruckedtobits wrote: June 12th, 2022, 10:58 pm Toulouse win Top14 quarter-final with all eight forwards replaced in second half.

Racing 92 beaten in Top14 quarter-final as they only replace seven forwards in second half.

The game has changed but the French League has made a mockery out of the fifteen-a-side game.
Could not agree more. The eight man bench has been in play for more than a decade and it is taken for granted, but it has changed rugby for the worse.

These are Toulouse's forward changes [alone]:

21' Cros [No6] off, Flament [No19] on
51' Mauvaka [No2] off, Marchand [No16] on
53' Baille [No1] off, Ainu'u [No17] on
58' Ri. Arnold [No5] off, Meafou [No18] on
61' Elstadt [No7] off, Tolofua [No20] on
61' Aldegheri [No3] off, Vallez [No23] on
66' Ro. Arnold [No4] off, Elstadt [No7] on
77' Mallez [No23] off, Aldeghiri [No3] on
79' Jelonch [No8] off, Mauvaka [No2] on

Literally subbed off every member of their pack in an 80 minute game.
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John23 wrote: June 30th, 2022, 1:41 pm C19. Managed to dodge it until now. The mother of all headaches.
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IanD wrote: June 30th, 2022, 11:33 am Bernie Ecclestone

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hugonaut wrote: June 13th, 2022, 10:43 am
Ruckedtobits wrote: June 12th, 2022, 10:58 pm Toulouse win Top14 quarter-final with all eight forwards replaced in second half.

Racing 92 beaten in Top14 quarter-final as they only replace seven forwards in second half.

The game has changed but the French League has made a mockery out of the fifteen-a-side game.
Could not agree more. The eight man bench has been in play for more than a decade and it is taken for granted, but it has changed rugby for the worse.

These are Toulouse's forward changes [alone]:

21' Cros [No6] off, Flament [No19] on
51' Mauvaka [No2] off, Marchand [No16] on
53' Baille [No1] off, Ainu'u [No17] on
58' Ri. Arnold [No5] off, Meafou [No18] on
61' Elstadt [No7] off, Tolofua [No20] on
61' Aldegheri [No3] off, Vallez [No23] on
66' Ro. Arnold [No4] off, Elstadt [No7] on
77' Mallez [No23] off, Aldeghiri [No3] on
79' Jelonch [No8] off, Mauvaka [No2] on

Literally subbed off every member of their pack in an 80 minute game.
There was a good discussion about this on some podcast or other this week. The molepod, or the badgercast something ridiculous like that. I agree that the eight man bench as become a blight on the game. But as I recall it was brought in for prop safety reasons(?) I remember a few switch-hitting props were being asked to take too much risk.

But its easy to make rules allowing for that. It won't be long til we see break-glass-in-case-of-emergency type players covering the whole backline from 23 with 7 replacement forwards.
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Twist wrote: July 1st, 2022, 1:47 pm
hugonaut wrote: June 13th, 2022, 10:43 am

Could not agree more. The eight man bench has been in play for more than a decade and it is taken for granted, but it has changed rugby for the worse.

These are Toulouse's forward changes [alone]:

21' Cros [No6] off, Flament [No19] on
51' Mauvaka [No2] off, Marchand [No16] on
53' Baille [No1] off, Ainu'u [No17] on
58' Ri. Arnold [No5] off, Meafou [No18] on
61' Elstadt [No7] off, Tolofua [No20] on
61' Aldegheri [No3] off, Vallez [No23] on
66' Ro. Arnold [No4] off, Elstadt [No7] on
77' Mallez [No23] off, Aldeghiri [No3] on
79' Jelonch [No8] off, Mauvaka [No2] on

Literally subbed off every member of their pack in an 80 minute game.
There was a good discussion about this on some podcast or other this week. The molepod, or the badgercast something ridiculous like that. I agree that the eight man bench as become a blight on the game. But as I recall it was brought in for prop safety reasons(?) I remember a few switch-hitting props were being asked to take too much risk.

But its easy to make rules allowing for that. It won't be long til we see break-glass-in-case-of-emergency type players covering the whole backline from 23 with 7 replacement forwards.
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Twist wrote: July 1st, 2022, 1:47 pm
hugonaut wrote: June 13th, 2022, 10:43 am
Ruckedtobits wrote: June 12th, 2022, 10:58 pm Toulouse win Top14 quarter-final with all eight forwards replaced in second half.

Racing 92 beaten in Top14 quarter-final as they only replace seven forwards in second half.

The game has changed but the French League has made a mockery out of the fifteen-a-side game.
Could not agree more. The eight man bench has been in play for more than a decade and it is taken for granted, but it has changed rugby for the worse.

These are Toulouse's forward changes [alone]:

21' Cros [No6] off, Flament [No19] on
51' Mauvaka [No2] off, Marchand [No16] on
53' Baille [No1] off, Ainu'u [No17] on
58' Ri. Arnold [No5] off, Meafou [No18] on
61' Elstadt [No7] off, Tolofua [No20] on
61' Aldegheri [No3] off, Vallez [No23] on
66' Ro. Arnold [No4] off, Elstadt [No7] on
77' Mallez [No23] off, Aldeghiri [No3] on
79' Jelonch [No8] off, Mauvaka [No2] on

Literally subbed off every member of their pack in an 80 minute game.
There was a good discussion about this on some podcast or other this week. The molepod, or the badgercast something ridiculous like that. I agree that the eight man bench as become a blight on the game. But as I recall it was brought in for prop safety reasons(?) I remember a few switch-hitting props were being asked to take too much risk.

But its easy to make rules allowing for that. It won't be long til we see break-glass-in-case-of-emergency type players covering the whole backline from 23 with 7 replacement forwards.
I believe it was brought in to end the blight of uncontested scrums
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Twist wrote: July 1st, 2022, 1:47 pm There was a good discussion about this on some podcast or other this week. The molepod, or the badgercast something ridiculous like that. I agree that the eight man bench as become a blight on the game. But as I recall it was brought in for prop safety reasons(?) I remember a few switch-hitting props were being asked to take too much risk.

But its easy to make rules allowing for that. It won't be long til we see break-glass-in-case-of-emergency type players covering the whole backline from 23 with 7 replacement forwards.
Simply allow a maximum of three substitutions in a game. If you want to sub a new front row on, fine but you've no more subs left.
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paddyor wrote: July 30th, 2022, 9:52 pm Sabina Higgins and her Husband abusing the office of president

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RoboProp wrote: July 19th, 2022, 5:01 pm George Ezra; boil in the bag banality, for people who like the idea of music
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Women's football; women's soccer; All Ireland's both over before the end of July; NZ rugby in shreds; Leinster season still 6 weeks away. The world is in chaos.

What are supposed to do in August?
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Ruckedtobits wrote: August 2nd, 2022, 8:42 am Women's football; women's soccer; All Ireland's both over before the end of July; NZ rugby in shreds; Leinster season still 6 weeks away. The world is in chaos.

What are supposed to do in August?
Couldn't agree more! In particular I think its a bad move by the GAA. It was supposed to facilitate the club season but its been a failure on that front - so many counties aren't even starting their championship until September.

I've heard a load of purists saying "well you can go an support your club." That's not much use if your club isn't playing because all the county lads are over in Chicago.

My own club is playing, and I'll be there watching them, but that's one game every two weeks and no national coverage to speak of. I also have to choose between watching our hurlers and our footballers, because I can't leave the house for the day every weekend.
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